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Davie

Olive swap

ok guys not to sure how to work out all of this but should run itself i am just wondering if you would be up for an olive swap as they come in to there own when the fish are on them so here goes.



olive swap 10 people.
must be in 1 month from getting 10 names to join

>1   AMC
>2   Mick
>3   Niklas
>4   Wayne
>5   Roy Christie
>6   Ronan Baggott
>7   FliTrap
>8   Wildfishonly
>9   MARAZION MIDGE
>10 Greg Long


                    DAVIE

Shall we say the closing date is 16th May, this gives us 4 weeks but try and get them in sooner?
AMC

I'll have a go Davie.
Cool AMC
mick

me 2
Mulhonken

I would love to join.. could anyone give me the latin name on what you decided to tie.. I´m not familiar with just "Olive"...
.../Niklas
AMC

[quote="Mulhonken"]I would love to join.. could anyone give me the latin name on what you decided to tie.. I´m not familiar with just "Olive"...
.../Niklas[/quote]
Had a look in a few books I have but can't seem to find it yet. Still looking. Rolling Eyes
wayne

Mulhonken wrote:
I would love to join.. could anyone give me the latin name on what you decided to tie.. I´m not familiar with just "Olive"...
.../Niklas


Niklas

The latin name for the olives is Baetis, it's in the order of Ephemeroptera.
Hope this helps.

Count me in Davie.
wayne

One question here guys are we tying the nymph, emerger or the adult?
Mulhonken

wayne wrote:

Niklas
The latin name for the olives is Baetis, it's in the order of Ephemeroptera.
Hope this helps.

Count me in Davie.

Thanks for helping out Wayne.. So a Baetis olive nymph.. What do you think 10-12 mm?? There seems to be alot of different ones..'

../Niklas
mick

yea wayne theres so many ifferant patterns you could tie through out the life cycle of the olive
Davie

listen guys what ever you want ill be tying a little olive nymph myself so its up to your self
Davie

wayne could you fix the tittle i have live insted of olive cheers davie



what have i started just nice basic olive patterns that you all think work for your self as i am going to put a wee pattern that is really doing well for me in


                                    Davie
RoyChristie

I'll play.

Count me in guys,
I need olive nymphs,
Roy
Ronan Baggott

i will tie up some sooties
FliTrap

Let this be the "test" in entering flies from the USA!  I'll work out the 10 flies and have them on their way!  Marking the packet, "gift"! to avoid the taxes and tolls!
Davie,
If you can please E-Mail me details of your mailing address, I'll be timely in getting the packet on its way!

I'll be tying a variation of a "famous" wet fly, common to our north west coastal area!  Some there, may see it as having a "local influence"!

A "Dr. Spratley" Variation pattern.

Take care!
FliTrap
Wildfishonly

Davie,
Stick me in if there's room.

WFO
wayne

FliTrap wrote:
Let this be the "test" in entering flies from the USA!  I'll work out the 10 flies and have them on their way!  Marking the packet, "gift"! to avoid the taxes and tolls!
Davie,
If you can please E-Mail me details of your mailing address, I'll be timely in getting the packet on its way!

I'll be tying a variation of a "famous" wet fly, common to our north west coastal area!  Some there, may see it as having a "local influence"!

A "Dr. Spratley" Variation pattern.

Take care!
FliTrap


For those wondering who that Doctor is look here
FliTrap

So, what size is common in your area for the Olives?

FliTrap
FliTrap

Spot on, Wayne!
 Its a fine fly.... well tied and well tested!  I use it a lot in "variation", up to size 8 hooks, during demonstration tying because of the fun story that goes along with it!  Last week, I did a "demo" at a children's wildlife educational program.  With the story telling, I had the children standing in line for as long as 45 minutes to get one of the flies!  Some total of 8 doz. tied in 6 hrs!  What a day of fun!  Great to see that many children doing more then play video games all day!
FliTrap
wayne

FliTrap wrote:
So, what size is common in your area for the Olives?

FliTrap


I've just tied 10 olive emergers on a size 12 kamasan B110 if that's a good indicator for you.
MARAZION MIDGE

ok count me in, and good luck in organising it some of these swaps go on a bit will tie mine next week
good luck
mike
wayne

Only one place left.
Davie

OK ILL PM ALL OF YOUMY ADDRESS SOON
greg long

you can add my name to the list. Dry cdc olive
wayne

All places now taken.
RoyChristie

How many flies.??

So that's 10 listed swappers, plus Davie
Eleven flytiers,
eleven flies due in
?

Roy
wayne

Re: How many flies.??

RoyChristie wrote:
So that's 10 listed swappers, plus Davie
Eleven flytiers,
eleven flies due in
?

Roy


Well spotted Roy,
I assume its eleven then!!!!!

Davie, you forgot to include yourself there my man??????
MARAZION MIDGE

ALL TIED DAVIE
just pm me your address and they will be on there way
good luck
mike
Wildfishonly

Same again, all tied and no where to go. Cool
Davie

OK GUYS I HAVE PM,D MY ADDRESS TO ALL OF YOU PLEASE COULD YOU SEND ME ALL YOU ADDYS AS WELL SORRY I HAVENT BEEN ABOUT BUT I HAVE BEEN SO BUSY FISHING  Laughing


                  WAYNE THANX FOR KEEPING EVERY ONE RIGHT



                                     DAVIE
MARAZION MIDGE

you shouldnt have to worry about address details for us if we all send  a sae no cost for yoy either.   mines away
good luck
mick

mine are all tied, should get them posted on friday
Wildfishonly

Flies on way Davie, I tied a hackless Klink. type pattern that has stood the test of time for me and fellow anglers over the years, Lough or River.
Regard,s
Mulhonken

Ready for shipping....

Davie

very nice look forward to getting my hands on  Laughing
Davie

hi guys recieved two sets so we are getting there ill post later on who sent them just a quick viset

                          Davie
greg long

Sent mine yesterday, 11 hatching lake olives.
PS I included £1....irish postage stamps are not much good in scotland..I was in Glasgow on Wednesday but forgot to buy a stamp! DUH!!!
AMC

Sorry guys for delay, have been busy. Crying or Very sad  Rolling Eyes
This is a pattern by Michael Kelly from Balbriggan, which I got from one of O'Rielly's books, for Lough Ennell (but i'm sure will do anywhere) usually fished on the point when trout are taking lake olives.
Will post first thing Monday. Wink
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/flyamc/lakeolivenymphs003.jpg
AMC

[quote="AMC"]Sorry guys for delay, have been busy. Crying or Very sad  Rolling Eyes
This is a pattern by Michael Kelly from Balbriggan, which I got from one of O'Rielly's books, for Lough Ennell (but i'm sure will do anywhere) usually fished on the point when trout are taking lake olives.
Will post first thing Monday. Wink
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s44/flyamc/lakeolivenymphs003.jpg


PS cra* photo I know and tried to post photo straight onto forum but had trouble and couldn't edit post after 1 minute. Shocked  Anyhow the link is there and you can see the flies, I hope. Rolling Eyes
Maybe the admin team can look into this and see if they can extend the "edit time" so as we can make sure our posts are correct before we submit them to the forum? Cool
Beatnik69

Is this what yo were trying to do Alan?

FliTrap

Return Postage.....

Davie!
I'll be mailing mine from USA.... I know to mare the packet as a "Gift" but what should I do to cover postage costs on the return?
USA Dollars any good there?  LOL
And how much?
FliTrap
Davie

ill worry about that its a gift and itll come back to you as a gift




well guys have 4 sets now 5 including my own
RoyChristie

Roy's set.

Davie I'll get these in the post to you in the morning,



they are size 16
thanks,
Roy
AMC

Yes beatnik, howd u do that? Confused
RoyChristie

How to do it

AMC,
in your photobucket album, go to the pic
Under the pic there are four boxes.
The third one is listed as [img]http://i36.photobucketcetcetcetc
that one will provide the url, which we have to click on to link to the photo
in the post message text that will show as a link

The FOURTH box is [IMG]http://i36.photobucketcettcetc...
Copy/paste that one into your message and it appears as the image.

It's just getting the familiarity..
later comes the contempt!
Very Happy

hope that works,
Roy
Beatnik69

Just like that! Smile
RoyChristie

Flies in post

My set went off this afternoon,
should arrive midweek.
Roy
wayne

AMC wrote:

PS cra* photo I know and tried to post photo straight onto forum but had trouble and couldn't edit post after 1 minute. Shocked  Anyhow the link is there and you can see the flies, I hope. Rolling Eyes
Maybe the admin team can look into this and see if they can extend the "edit time" so as we can make sure our posts are correct before we submit them to the forum? Cool


Alan. Have now changed it to 10 minutes, was not aware that it was set at 1 minute.
AMC

Cheers Roy/Beatnik, will give it a go. Cool

Cheers Wayne  Cool
FliTrap

Davie!
Will be stopping by the Postal Center tomorrow to mail out this collecting of flies!
Two boxes included, the first being of the Dr. Spratly tied for the Swap! In returning the flies from the swap, use that box, please!
The other box contains a few ties of my efforts at what we refer to as "Soft Hackles" and then a few "Spratley's" that I added a bit more variation to..... these being for your enjoyment!  It will be a joy knowing that flies I have tied are being fished in your local waters or decorating the near by tries!
Thanks again for allowing me into the Fly Swap.
Looking foreword to seeing the flies!
FliTrap
FliTrap

Details for the Dr. Spratley Fly

Hook:  Your favorite Streamer style hook.
Thread:  Black
Tail:    Guinea fowl or grizzly hackle fibers
Ribbing: Flat silver or gold tinsel, adjust to size of hook
Body:  Uni-Yarn, (2x Regular) your favorite color!
Beard:  Guinea fowl for larger sizes. (see note)
Wing:  Pheasant tail
Head:  Peacock herl
TYING NOTES:
1. First pinch your barb, lay down a thread base to the bend of the hook.
2. Tie in the tail, and then a length of silver tinsel.
3. Tie in Uni-Yarn or dub on the body for smaller sizes
4. Wrap the body forward in a tapered style body and tie off at 3/4 shank length.  (From the bend of the hook!)
5. Wrap the tinsel forward as evenly as possible to create the body segments
6. Tie in the beard.  (In tying smaller sizes, I simply use a speckled black/white hen hackle, in a collar, then tying the wing over that!)  
7. Tie in the wing, using several strands of pheasant tail. (Don’t over kill on the amount of wing materials!)
8. Tie in 2-3 strands of peacock herl just ahead of the wing.
9. Wrap the herl to form a rounded head, whip finish, and cement.
TIPS and NOTES:
This fly has been ties in most every size, fished for Trout to Salmon, one of the most famous in the Northwestern area of the USA and British Columbia, Canada!
Try varying your tying style, tie some with thin bodies, while other fat!  While the fly does not represent any one insect, it can be adapted to look like any number and size of Mayfly or Cadis!  It’s a great searching pattern for both lakes and streams.
I tend to tie them in the smaller sizes, starting at a size 12, 3x lg. Streamer hook on up to a size 8!  I also find it a fun tie in the smaller sizes, using a standard nymph hook.  When I go smaller then a size 12 hook, I will switch the wing material to being a Mallard Drake Flank Feather, being softer and bringing a more speckle affect into the wing!  This is a common duck feather in our area that is dyed to match a wide range of colors!  I use this same idea when tying the pattern for use with our Bream (Bluegill, Crappie and bass!)  There really hasn’t been a fish I can’t catch on some variation of this fly!  Some of my largest Trout has come from fishing this fly in a size 8 Streamer, cast it 45 degrees down stream and towards the side, then allowing it to swing and rise in front of the feeding Trout!  In fishing lakes, the most common arrangement is to fish it with a full sinking line or a sinking tip line in 8-15 feet of water, using a 9’ leader, matched to the fish you are after!!   I like to Troll this fly close to the bottom, vary your speed until you locate the fish.  With a Floating line, it can be fished just sub-surface, in short strips!  Killer for fish on a fast rise!

Have Fun!
FliTrap
MARAZION MIDGE

well how hard can it be to tie ten flies and post them off,
looks like another fly flop instead of swap
well done to all who have got thiers in as for the others why did you enter the swap in the first place
wayne

MARAZION MIDGE wrote:
well how hard can it be to tie ten flies and post them off,
looks like another fly flop instead of swap
well done to all who have got thiers in as for the others why did you enter the swap in the first place


er???? i think the closing date has not passed yet Crying or Very sad  Crying or Very sad and in fact has another week to run
Davie wrote:

Shall we say the closing date is 16th May, this gives us 4 weeks but try and get them in sooner?
FliTrap

MM!
I for one, feel that swaps are for the benefit of all involved and by all means, a promotion of the Art!  Everyone of us started as a beginner tyer of flies at some point.  Most all take great pride in trying to produce a great set of flies for the swap, no matter what skill level they are at.
In my own experience, I ran over on the date a time or two, more because I wasn't happy with what I was getting done and I felt that I owed it to the others in the swap!  I would much rather allow a person to do their best then to be unhappy with poor workmanship and then you "blast them" for that!
Don't sweat the little stuff!  If this is so disappointingly for you, Swaps may not be your best way to enjoy the hobby!
If it would help, send me on your best Doz. flies.... I'll get some back your way!  There's a swap for you!  I would be willing, never having seen your work!
Take time to do it right!
You all have fun!
FliTrap
FliTrap

Mulhonken!

Was looking back at the postings and will say, quite enjoyed studying your flies!  If you could, detail the methods for making the bodies of your contribution!
Great Work!
FliTrap
Mulhonken

FliTrap wrote:
Mulhonken!

Was looking back at the postings and will say, quite enjoyed studying your flies!  If you could, detail the methods for making the bodies of your contribution!
Great Work!
FliTrap


Hi Flitrap.. Thanks for the sugar.. I can try to manage a SBS on it next time im doing them. In the meantime look at this link
http://ukflydressing.proboards83....mp;action=display&thread=1598 It not the same fly but the tecnique for the body is the same.. /Niklas[/url]
MARAZION MIDGE

thats more like it, see just a couple of moans and we are all talking again  
its good to keep these swaps moving
Wink
FliTrap

MM!
If that was a moan, I don't want to be around for a full fledge belly-ache! Laughing  Laughing  You know, a few days adrift on a calm bit of secluded water will clear that right up!  That "therapy" can be quite effective if you can get the sun to shine a bit through those fluffy white clouds with a breeze enough to ripple the water!
Good Day!
FliTrap
Davie

listen guys still waiting on a couple but as soon as time is up i wil post all straight away i would also like to add the tying are bang on



                                    Davie
FliTrap

Davie!
Did you get the package from me?  Wondering what delivery time is from St Louis Missouri, USA will be!

Good day!
FliTrap
Davie

flitrap aint got them yet my friend
Davie

OK THATS IT DIDNT GET EVERYONES BUT THE ONES I DID GET WILL BE POSTED TO ALL NEXT WEEK AND THANX TO ALL WHO TOOK PLACE



                    DAVIE
wayne

Davie wrote:
OK THATS IT DIDNT GET EVERYONES BUT THE ONES I DID GET WILL BE POSTED TO ALL NEXT WEEK AND THANX TO ALL WHO TOOK PLACE



                    DAVIE


Davie, there is still another day to run on this yet, you said the closing date was the 16th May not the 14th, then there is the weekend to receive the stragglers and Monday to post.
Then we have our American friend Flitrap who has taken the time to tie and post the flies, the least you can do is give him the benefit of waiting for the flies to arrive being they are travelling 5,000 odd miles.

My flies are now posted and should be with you by the closing date of the 16th, if not they will arrive at the weekend.
Mulhonken

I agree, there is no rush here.. Wait a couple of days for Mr Flitraps flies. I don´t care if it takes some time, i´d rather see that all the flies will come.. So take it easy Davie.../Niklas
Davie

ok guys i will wait sorry for the rush i just thought that was time up i have flitraps now niklas so ill wait for yours wayne Laughing


                              Davie
FliTrap

Glad to hear mine made it!  No rush for me if you wait for others!
Thanks again for the swap!
FliTrap
wayne

Should be with you this morning or tomorrow at the latest, posted yesterday.
Davie

WAYNE THATS YOUR S HERE MATE
AMC

What's happening with the flies? Have they been posted yet? Confused
ChrisDickey

pm davie alan, i know mick hasnt received his either, let me know if you cant get hold of davie
wayne

none here either
ChrisDickey

davie has been working a lot lately and he is gona get the flies posted asap
AMC

Nice one Cool
Davie

ok guys sorry about the wait but ive just finished 9 straight days so i sat down last night and sorted them all out they will be im the post today most of you should have them by the next week


                                     DAVIE



PS ANYONE SPORTING A GOOD DIGI CAMERA AS MINE WONT CHARGE PLEASE COULD YOU PUT PICS OF ALL THE FLIES PLEASE
Davie

ok guys they are all out this morning some will get them sooner than others but you will all get them all i have to say is some of the patterns are stunning i felt a little embaraced with mine but i catch fish on it



                              DAVIE
wayne

Davie wrote:

PS ANYONE SPORTING A GOOD DIGI CAMERA AS MINE WONT CHARGE PLEASE COULD YOU PUT PICS OF ALL THE FLIES PLEASE


step up Mr Christie or Niklas me thinks
wayne

Received the flies this morning, very good quality by all.
Thanks to all that took part and a big thanks to Davie for organising.
We just need a rogues gallery now, who's got a good camera?
AMC

Got mine this morning, cracking flies. Thanks to all and to Davie for organising the swap and sticking with it. Cool  Very Happy
MARAZION MIDGE

FLIES HERE ALL GOOD
THANKS ALL
Wildfishonly

Flies arrived, thanks davie, some wonderful creations to use on the waters. Thanks all.
wayne

I will do a scan of the flies later on today, dont know what the quality will come out like but it will give others a chance to view them.
AMC

A quick pic of fleas received. Crackin. I must say these are stunning. Smile  Cool
AMC

PS i'm glad mine isn't there. Embarassed
wayne

I have modified your pic Alan(hope you dont mind) and thanks for taking the pic.

Could everyone please identify their fly.

Mine would be fly 8.
Roy Christie's would be fly 7.
Mulhonken

Great swaping guys... Mine is no 1..  Will try them this weekend in Storån, the waters were Sawyer created his SS nymph... /Niklas
Davie

WAYNE IM NUMBER 9 BUT SEEMS TO BE IN THE DARK A LITTLE  Very Happy
FliTrap

No. 6 is the  "Dr. Spratley" Variation pattern!  The wing on that one looks a bit wild!  Must have been the long, rough travel!  I say, add a bit of water to calm it down!  Thanks all that took part!  I'll stand by in waiting, figuring a few extra days to get to the USA!
FliTrap
Davie

has no one else recieved there flie,s
RoyChristie

got mine

Thanks guys, I got mine.
I been away fishin for a week and working like a dog for the last 5 days since I got back,

good work all,
Roy
FliTrap

No Flies, yet, here in the USA!
I'll keep an eye open for them!Wink
FliTrap
greg long

No flies yet, but mine is no5 in the pic.
FliTrap

Still  no flies, my way! Crying or Very sad   any one seen them?
Shocked
FliTrap
Davie

ok guys how many are still waiting i think i mstill have all the reciepts form the postageif you dont get them ill do my best and tye more for you guys



                                       DAVIE
FliTrap

Where, oh where could my little flies be....?

While I haven't had a feeling to get out to fish.... 100 degrees FH here today, I'm just wondering if the flies were returned your way or given up for lost!
If there is any chance of getting we still have  BWO's hatching later in our fall months!
Either way...
FliTrap

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